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17 September 2007

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Wow. That is a beautiful, inspiring post, exquisitely rendered, filled with numinous hope and dazzling textures, calling me to live both here and transcendently while buoyed by assurances borne of God.

"Salvation is beauty, poetry, music."

Thank you, Sharon.

And all God's people said AMEN!

That was a beautiful post indeed. It always amazes me when people say they grew up in the SDA church and didn't hear grace preached from the pulpit (or classroom, or wherever) because my experience of my SDA church and school as an adolescent was of being steeped in the doctrine of grace -- having God's grace described to me at every opportunity. And yet I have heard a friend who went to the very same church and school during the same years say that HE never heard grace preached -- so to some extent what we hear has to depend on the filters we're hearing it through. In his case and mine the church and school were the same but the homes were very different and I suspect that is at least part of where the difference lies.

Based on my experience in our mission school, whenever the English and Arts departments were incharge of worship there was always a marked improvement in quality.

I should add: "... marked improvement in quality AND CLARITY."

Beautiful Sharon. Thank you, thank you. I feel like I've just heard ancient music in a holy place.

Sharon's elucidation of the centrality of justifying grace to Adventist Christians is beyond lovely; it is important, even essential, if we are to grasp the full significance of "the 28." Only when all of our doctrinal statements are taught and experienced "in the light that streams from the cross of Calvary" (Gospel Workers, 315) will they be the relevant, useful foundation to a vibant Christian experience they have the potential of being. As Sharon so aptly pointed out: "Severing that mental link between what we do and how we’re saved changes the entire landscape of our faith." Thank you, Sharon, for so clearly pointing us in the right direction.

I'm pleased to have the company of all of your comments. Thank you.

TrudyJ, I agree with you that our filters affect what we experience. At the same time, when it comes to the experience of Adventism, wouldn't it be extraordinary if an understanding of grace were as prominent and, in fact, unavoidable as, say, our beliefs about the seventh-day Sabbath or the state of the dead? I'm sure every kid who has gone through the Adventist educational system is fairly clear on these beliefs. I wish it were the same with grace so that those of us within the community could not escape an understanding of it.

In fact, I wish grace were the defining characteristic of Adventism so that when a non-Adventist hears the word "Adventist," he/she might connect us to our grace belief instead of thinking, "Oh, those people who don't eat meat and can't do anything on Saturdays." If grace were at the forefront of our message, I think the tenor of evangelism would change--and the tenor of the Adventist faith community itself might change--and consequently, fewer of us would leave, not to mention that we would probably have a greater impact on the world.

The idea of Grace has still not filtered down to the evangelists who focus on prophecy and the Sabbath as the distinctive marks of the "Remnant." Would that Grace were the distinctive feature. Evidence does not support this theory, however. Maybe another 100 years?

When I think of Grace, I think of Baptists.

And Benton Harbor, MI where liquor stores and churches are side by side and serve the same audience. Grace.

Arlyn, my wife Beth shares your sentiments. My wife grew up exposed to both Baptist and Adventist communities. Her maternal grandmother was an Adventist, who was converted through the ministry of her father, pioneer SDA worker in Palawan, Philippines. However, her grandfather never converted but remained a Baptist until he died. She recalls there were friendly arguments on religious beliefs, but what she cherishes most is the memory of her grandfather, who she cherishes as the most loving and lovely person she ever knew. She often tells me of the contrast between the warmth she felt when she visited the Baptist church and the rigidity at her local Adventist church.

Elaine: The idea of Grace has still not filtered down to the evangelists who focus on prophecy and the Sabbath as the distinctive marks of the "Remnant." Would that Grace were the distinctive feature. Evidence does not support this theory, however.

Elaine, your post brought to mind something I heard last night during prayer meeting. For two weeks now there has been much focus on Revelation and the plagues, etc. Last night, as the powerpoint slides focused on "signs of the end" along with the earthquakes and terrors of the modern age, the NT texts condemning same sex relations were hammered with such vengeance that after the text in question, one Adventist sister loudly whispered to her recently baptized pew mate, "he's referring to all those f---ots who live in this neighborhood.

Along with these flesh sinners, he also mentioned pride, vanity, moral superiority, etc., after which he added, "and such were many of us."

I wish I remembered whether she said the F word before or after the pastor's comment.

The sad thing about this dear sister is that unknown to her, one of her best friends, a man who's separated from his wife in another country due to immigration issues for a few years now, is struggling with bisexuality, and has confided that information to the pastor and to one or two other church members.

Earlier in the "Signs of the Times series", last week, when the visiting preacher mentioned the “dogs” that would be outside the New Jerusalem, one stalwart member of the Wednesday night prayer meetings, shouted out, "that's referring to homosexuals." The visiting minister replied with a chuckle, "well sister, I wouldn't have put it so clinically, but you have to agree that those men really do behave like dogs."

It's a small wonder that no one from the affluent gay and lesbian community that surrounds this particular church has come inside its fading white-painted doors inquiring about the message of grace and love that this twice-a-week church might have inside.

It's irrelevant what is said about Grace if our actions belie it. Not until we live out what we believe will it make one bit of difference. God help us!

Thank you for this timely message. It is so helpful and important that we can classify it as present truth,

Is Grace something we look at and coo lovingly?

Is Grace Love?

After the poems are written and the odes admired, maybe there'll be time for Grace to work, and actually transform someone.
Hopefully...
Can't keep it in a glass case and worship it forever.

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